Wednesday, May 6, 2015

DEMON ROAD

Ladies. Gentlemen. Minions.

Behold.



Wow.

We're still working on it, still altering and changing the little details, still tweaking... but I really wanted to get it out before it's leaked.

And let's face it, it is BRILLIANT.

You can start trembling now.

4,973 comments:

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Kai The Immortal said...

(the way the country is ruled just now a dictatorship if it even managed to take down the monarchy would instantly be seen as a threat and England invaded.)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

World starvation? This is not a crisis we are dealing with. Are there people starving? Yes. Would a dictator send them food? Of course not.

I would say that if you're advocating a totalitarian state and don't want to study literally any part of 20th century history, because at every point in that you can look somewhere and find issues related to them, read 1984. George Orwell's first hand experience of the horror that was a dictatorship of the prolatariat and those that advocated one really shines through.

Also, it's a gripping and atmospheric novel written by a masterful author.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

[Sighs]

Hello.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

(Pardon?)

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: that doesn't mean it can't be done right. People bringing up the past is quite funny tbh. What's past is past, the most we can do it learn from it. But just because something happened in the past doesn't mean it can't happen differently in the future.
con: i don't mean dictatorship for just england. For the entire world.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Herrow Fabi! How are things?

Kai The Immortal said...

(hi rebel...


@trip if the pardons me then i simply mean if someone tried dictatorship here other countries would see it their business and instantly try to gain authority/ power.if not for me then hey I explained my self

also someone give me something to draw :( plox bored )

Dugglyn Carzainia said...

*mutters about HYDRA and hating betrayals*

Star Inkbright said...

Dictatorships can, in theory, be a lotmore successful and efficency, bit they have a VERY low success rate.

And seeing as how Ireland is not a dictatorshipped country, the law had to be passed via democratic means.

Look. I realise that a lot of people say to minorities 'hey you got some rights what more do you want,' and I realise what a sucky argument that is. But the fact is, on this issue, equality happened. I don't see how you can ask for more than that.

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: Woahour, okay, no. Don't agree with you.

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Star - I may not expect them to agree with me, but I expect them not to discriminate. That is something I expect in societies which seem to pride themselves on equality, at least.)

Feraaaa32 said...

star: but then, why should others be able to decide what you are allowed to do, if opinions are equal? i say we should either have anyone do whatever they want, which would be chaos, but still better than democracy. I don't see how it would get us anywhere. As long as people are so unorganized.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Okay then. You don't want to use the 20th century to demonstrate why dictatorships in any form never work? Then we'll go back to my argument that a solution always be get a a problem. That is definitely something we can learn from history. Surely a solution that the majority of people are happy with is better than one created by one person with little to no consultation who's ideas are never contradicted because they have power over life and death?

Kai The Immortal said...

(dictatorship on a global scale would never work every country would be too busy trying to assert itself in the chaos trying to make themselves new top dog all the while people fighting the resistance to kill the leader it would turn into ww3 everyone would hate everyone and effectively because of the way war works no matter that outcome the other end we'd effectively be put back 20 years for stuff to properly assert it's self )

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Everyone's opinion is equal, so why is what one person wants to have the right to do more important than what fifty thousand people don't want them to?

Star Inkbright said...

@Sophia: Ehhhhh you think more highly of humanity than I do.

@Fera: Wha . . . ?
Democracy
makes
most people
happy.
(In theory)

Opinions are equal, but I think doing the thing most people want is better than either doing the thing one singular person wants or not doing anything.

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: again, you're not seeing into things, you're just seeing what's put in front of you. What if there was a dictator that actually had the right ideas? Just take the example of barack obama. He promised so many good things, and he said it's all democracy...do you see anything progressing forward in america? I don't.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Again, I don't mean to be rude, but I don't really understand your arguments Con, because I can't really read them? Just a few mor full stops. But from what I gather I think what you're saying makes sense.

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Fera, I disagree with you.

I do support the idea of an extended UN, with representatives from all countries and religions to create a set of laws which the entire world would be subjected to - including things like human rights, gay marriage, healthcare, etc. It may be too idealistic, but if you actually allowed the UN to actually take some form of decisive action, it would not be too far away.)

Star Inkbright said...

@Fwra: Also, all opinions are equal, but you couldn't make gay marriage legal and illegal at the same time, whatever your system.

Unless it was every person for themselves, but then laws wouldn'r exist.

@Conductor: Eh, I'm sure it could be possible somehow. Just VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY unlikely to work out.

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: progress. People are whiny, and they're always going to be. Can't please everyone, but maybe at least could make life in general better.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Hello Trip.

Things are... Thing-like.

Idk, I'm kinda bored. Needed a break from sewing pointe shoes.

Hello Conductor, Star, Sophia, Fera, Mesopotamia, anyone else.

[hasn't read all of the debate but decides to offer opinions anyway]

On the subject of dictatorships--power corrupts. Like, seriously. It doesn't matter if the dictator means well at first, there will be people who disagree with them, and if they're a proper dictator, they will crush said people who disagree with them, and it usually goes from there.

Yes, it would be ideal if everybody thought that different sexual orientations were normal, and there was no need for any sort of laws to be passed. However, we don't live in an ideal world. [shrugs] I think that Ireland deciding to allow same-sex marriage is a good step, and I think complaining about the fact that there needed to be a law is a little bit pointless.

Feraaaa32 said...

sophia: perhaps. If they weren't so corrupted. But oh well.

Star Inkbright said...

@Sophia: Sounds fairly okayIsh.

@Fera: But no one can agree on what's right, so it would be impossible for someone to have all the right ideas. You would always be oppressing someone.

Kai The Immortal said...

(some of the worst stuff in history was done with the right intentions and their for the right ideas, in theory Hitlers world if accomplished would have been heaven on earth... to the nazis, to everyone else, the people who disagreed it would be terrible doing shit work for food rashers or dead. there are always those who think it'd be a great idea but for one persons ideas to be gospel would be silencing a whole bunch of people and although I may not agree with them for not wanting gay marriage I agree they have the right to be heard.)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Fera, earlier I said something that I think needs repeating. To believe that your position is infallible is to invalidate it.

Or I said something to that effect.

There is no such thing as 'the right ideas'. Everyone can be wrong.

Liberalism is not necessarily the correct mindset.

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Star - Perhaps. Or perhaps it is more a case of, "There are several matters in which if you disagree with me you automatically become my enemy". Such as murder being wrong, homosexuals being able to marry - some of the things I consider important. So rather than expecting everyone in the world not to discriminate, it is more, "If I am expected to talk to you and not punch you, you should not discriminate".)

Star Inkbright said...

Yes, Conductor.

Star Inkbright said...

@Sophia: Ah, but you see, now you're being narrownminded and refusing to listen to alternative views. ;)

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: but you can view things as "right ideas" if they avoid conflicts and provide a better future for everyone
Con: hitler was just a racist, superiorist prick. Can't always compare everything that "he though he had the right ideas" because he was practically insane.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

The UN has representatives from all countries that want to be there. It's basically a meeting place.

In addition, if we're letting religions in, can my religion Festovianism go? And is ISIS allowed a representative?

At, Fabi. And things do tend to be thing-like, don't they?

Feraaaa32 said...

star: perhaps, and if people are being raised into a certain idealism, they would be quicker to accept such ideas.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

[nods]

And string-beans tend to be string-bean-like.

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: People originally loved Hitler and thought he had all the right ideas. How do we know your 'right ideas' guy won't turn out the same as Hitler?

Feraaaa32 said...

star: most people didn't know about him torturing millions in a concentration camp.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

I've always been a rather large Churchill fan, and I have two quotes that I find quite relevant here. Forgive me if I misquote slightly, this is from memory:

"I disagree with what you say Sir, but I will hive my life for your right to say it."

"Democracy is the least awful form of government we have so far come across."

Star Inkbright said...

Ah yes. Hello Moss. Sadly, it took me until now to realise who you were, or I would have greeted you better. :)

Kai The Immortal said...

(ah! sorry trip, I am kinda worked up, for obvious reasons. Everything just kind of flows in my mind naturally anyway, I don't see an end to a sentence as anything more than a reason to breathe. In my mind everything is linked and therefore fullstops/ commas are not needed as it all links together. Am I using them right lol I'm still thinking all over the place very anonying, mind wandering, things get away from me too easily, I don't use things I don't find to be important in sentence structure when i'm worked up.)

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: He wasn't at first. How do you know your 'right idras' guy won't end up doing that?

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Star - Listening I could probably manage. Not punching them after I've listened would be... Unlikely.

Trip - Any recognised religion. And ISIS is an Islamic extremist group, not an actual religion. It is not even a religious denomination. It is a paramilitary terrorist organisation.)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Exactly, fera. Right ideas guy will have to (although Hitler didn't have to do that, it certainly helped free up jobs) do things that might not be considered 'right'.

And tigers most tiger-like.

Star Inkbright said...

Ah, see, I think in fully punctuated sentences. :P

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

It's alright, Star. I'm hardly the queen of greetings myself.

Feraaaa32 said...

star: he's always had the intentions to do it.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

And bats are very bat-like.

Star Inkbright said...

@Sophia: Fairy nuff, then. :)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

(That claims to be a nation, I mean. Will they be allowed to come? And anyway, I recognize my religion, so why is it not valid? )

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: perhaps. or we can watch the world burn. Choose your pick.

Star Inkbright said...

@Moss: But I like you and would want to greet you. :P

I don't tend to see bats.

@Fera: How do you know your 'right ideas' guy doesn't? He could be lying to you.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

(Ah, thanks. Much like Star, I would say I too think in punctuation. I don't mean to be rude, I just genuinely wasn't sure what you meant :p)

Feraaaa32 said...

star: because i'd think the guy would've learned from hitler's mistake.

Kai The Immortal said...

(commas and fullstops just stop me from reading faster, or typing faster but i'll try )

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Or keep on what we're doing now? This is not a binary problem. Our current syste m has worked for centuries and survived all sorts of other ideas that came and went in that time. Why stop now?

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

But he couldn't please everyone in the world! There's bound to be at least one person who is unhappy with how they solved the problem.

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: Hitler is just a metaphor. They could be planning to do something equally as bad.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

OH YEAH

Speaking of bats, there's something I need to go do now. Will be distant.

...

It's actually nothing to do with bats.

Kai The Immortal said...

(just because he learned from it doesn't mean he/ she wouldn't make a whole bunch of mistakes just as bad, no one person can be trusted with that kind of power. power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.)

Star Inkbright said...

Yes Trip.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

And Fabi is most Fabi-like.

Star Inkbright said...

@Moss: :)

Star Inkbright said...

@Trip: :) Yes.

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: because this is not the past. In the past, technology, advances, global warming, ice age, world hunger were not such problems. We could manage with this system back then. However not now, not for long anyways.

Feraaaa32 said...

con: yet people seem to be doing just as badly.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

And Trip is rather Trip-like, now that you mention it.

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Trip - What they claim to be, and what they are, are entirely different things. As I said - they are a paramilitary terrorist organisation. Anything they claim to be will be only to provide propaganda for more members to join.

There is a difference between a religion and a personal belief system, in the respect that a religion has a more public and formal aspect to it - not in numbers, but by availability, structure and other such determinations.)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Something I had to figure out once, fera, is that if you are alone in your view a s people don't understand your argument, or are unconvinced by it, there's a strong possibility you're wrong.

(Thanks.)

See you soon Fabi!

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Oh, he is also rather derp-like, it seems!

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: There's no such thing as wrong, i thought you said/implied? Yeah, and the majority of people did not agree with the earth being not flat. or giving women equal rights. Or not believing in god.

Kai The Immortal said...

(in my mind we're doing better than we would be should we be oppressed by the judgement of a dictator)

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(I would also like to point out that a monarchical system in England had been in place longer than democracy has. It changed when it was realised it was no longer fit for purpose. Some day, the same thing will happen to democracy and it will be replaced by another system.)

Star Inkbright said...

@Trip: Barely anyone supported gay marriage a hundred years ago. Does that mean the people who did were wrong?

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

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Feraaaa32 said...

con: you can't say that. Russia is doing just fine(well, depends on where in russia).
Sophia: possibility.

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Fangirl moment

Omfg! Derek actually retweeted my tweet

"So like musical Hunger Games? AWESOME!"

*nods*

*ends fangirl moment to allow regularly scheuled programming to continue*

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: Yeah.

@Siphia: Probably. :) But so far, democracy is the best system I can see THAT IS LIKELY TO WORK.

Kai The Immortal said...

(sorrry laughed at that last one had to, because the other two are A obvious and B something that should be allowed, gay is just the newest thing to be allowed and it's ok that we are finnaly coming around to it ..... you said the last one like it HAS to be real.)

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Star - As I said, presuming the majority is right is a bad point about democracy.)

Kai The Immortal said...

(russia beat up a gay couple almost to death for kissing in public... yeh they're leading by example of good countries in my mind.)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Why not? I don't think Nazi Germany was a smaller threat than global warming.

(But now you're discriminating against a minority. Sure, ISIS has a military wing, but so do all nations. They are an aggressive group, yes, but they are a people your world government is trying to make things better for. Why do they not get to be represented?)

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Star - It worked only because of the time and the opinions of those at the time and at this current time. And given the fact that a few decades ago, the Irish were against gay marriage and now they voted for it, it is a good example of how quickly the standards of those in the country can change.)

Star Inkbright said...

@Sophia: and the fact the majority can be wrong is one of the major disadvantages to democracy.

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: global warming will literally kill everyone if we don't do something aobut it. it is far more of a threat than the nazis.

Star Inkbright said...

@Sophia: Yes.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Russia is in recession.

Maybe you're right there, Star. The point is more about trying to remember to look at yourself and see that you are the one arguing the false case.

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: Eh, idk. I have faith that humanity will survive global warming somehow.

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Trip - It is irrelevant of number. I am more considering the numerous breaches of human rights the group has undertaken, and countless war crimes - stopping them being one of the purposes of the council.)

Star Inkbright said...

@Trip: Thank you. Yes.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

The Nazis would rule everyone and kill everyone who disagreed with them. In addition, to kill a Nazi, you had to shoot or bomb them, to defeat global warming you must convince people of its reality and then act upon it. For a democracy, this sort of thing is far easier than a war.

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(You are getting the hang of it Star, yes.)

Feraaaa32 said...

star: yeah...if we do something about it. otherwise, not really.

Star Inkbright said...

You know when earlier I was saying that people who lack empathy are equally human, but that if they cause harm (eg. murder) I will believe they should be locked up regardless of their humanity, because many over the few?
Same with ISIS. If you take away other people's basic rights (like the right to not be murdered) you get yours subtracted.

IS IS as a religion may be able to be representative, but not as an organisation.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

@Soph What the hell are you talking about? Why are you still talking about the gay marriage vote?

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

(They are of large number and political influence. Clearly, their number is large and well funded enough to take on the armed forces of two small nations. They possess considerable territory. Why are we of considering them if you are so willing to accept Iran?

And surely, if this expanded UN was to represent all nations, what about those that disagreed with the bill of human rights, like Iran or North Korea?

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Part of me would actually like to see humanity being pushed to the brink of extinction due to global warming. It would be a fantastic, "I told you so" moment.)

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: it is far more of a challenge to reduce the consumption of certain things/create new environmentally friendly methods to reduce global warming, in a product-hungry world, than it is to bomb an army.

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: Eh. Build a dome or two. Hide from the outside environment. Easy.

@Sophia: :) I'm glad we're reaching common ground.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

@Star wrong is subjective.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

*not considering them

Star Inkbright said...

@Kas; it was an example. Like a metaphor.

Feraaaa32 said...

sophia: actually, lots of people are trying to do things to stop it. IF that happened, it would be a huge "fuck you" to the face of those people, rather than the "i told you" to those who didn't care. you can't just be selfish and see everything from one perspective.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

And my comment isn't a metaphor. Right and wrong are what you make of them.

Feraaaa32 said...

star: you clearly have no idea of what conditions we need to actually sustain our society. It wouldn't be nearly as easy as you're portraying it.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Once again fera, you are let down by your lack of 20th century knowledge.

Thank you Kas, that is what I should have been saying. You propose these ideas so that your ideologies that you believe to be the correct ones will become prominent. What makes you better than the extremists?

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Trip - As I said, if they actually had the power to take decisive action...)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

The logistics and spending involved in defeating the Nazis...

Everything we have done since has been pittance in comparison.

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: once again, i don't need to know a lot about the 20th century as long as i have common sense.

Star Inkbright said...

@Kas: My comment was @your comment @sophia's comment @gay marriage.
Right and wrong are subjective. Therefore EVERY decision the majority makes is wrong in soneone's view. Of course the majority can be wrong.

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Tia - I actually stopped talking about the gay marriage vote beforehand, its mention was only an example, nothing more and nothing less.)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

(But on the world stage no one does, Sophia. If they did then fear's world dictatorship would have already come to pass.)

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: Nah. I know.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

@Star seriously, what's got you so annoyed about the vote?

Do you think there shouldn't be a vote? Should we suddenly abandon democratic principles? Should we maybe elect a group of a hundred or so straight conservative politicians to vote for us?

Feraaaa32 said...

star: ok ^_^

Star Inkbright said...

@Kas: What the fuck???? It was Sophia who objected to the vote! I'be been arguing for it all night!

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

But we're literally talking about a fifteen year period of history in the 20th century here. About 1930-1945. You do need to know about 20th century history in this instance, it's the topic.

Feraaaa32 said...

but i guess, one day, if someone appears, someone who hands all the power to the people's hand, we'll see how good they're gonna deal with it. I'd guess very badly, but that's just my opinion.

Star Inkbright said...

And I have made EXACTLY your argument all night! My point about democratic principles was what got us talking about dictatorship vs. democracy!

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

@Star depends on what you mean by right. A majority cannot be right or wrong, it can simply have a view you agree or disagree with.

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: I know enough.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

That was @Sophia, sorry for freaking you out! :S

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

That ideology is anarchism, fera. And yes, so do I. That's why democratic states elect representatives. It's basically a middle ground.

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Trip - We are discussing a theoretical council which would consist of the majority, if not all of the world, upholding human rights. This way, banning trade would be crippling if a country did not enforce human rights. Banning of trade has been done before, only in that situation it would actually do something.)

Star Inkbright said...

@Kas: Ah. Sorry. :)
Glad we agree. :) :)

And - exactly. :)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Millions died to end the second world war.

I'm fairly sure that the death toll in the fight to reduce carbon emissions is still below triple figures.

Kai The Immortal said...

( Look art ! I uploaded most of what I HAVE... now just accept that people vote because it's easier to do that than have the possibility of starting a war... anyone here want a war? I sure as hell don't just because it would burden me more than anything else. A mere annoyance. so let the puny humans vote on how to live their life let them vote even when we know what is right all we can do is voice out opinion and hope it'll be heard.)

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: well, the thing is...why do we think that this works better than anarchy, whereas democracy is supposed to be the same thing just with representatives? IF we are doing better, is this true democracy, or do they just say it's democracy?

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Tia - I disagree with some democratic principles. I am not against the outcome of the vote, just that gay marriage was not allowed beforehand and that there had to be a vote about it - if society was equal and tolerant, it could be simply integrated without complaints.)

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: yet if we loose the fight, it will be going over 6 figures.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

Furthermore, I believe the vote *should* be for everybody because that's the only way it'll be fair. You can't make exceptions for who gets to vote for what because that can go downhill real fast.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

( A this point you're just suggesting a world democracy. But one that isn't really very democratic. What happens when you try to elect the Illuminati.)

Star Inkbright said...

Yes Las.

I'm agreeing with you a lot today. How nice. :)

@Sophia: 'if society was fair and tolerant' yeahhhhh :( I wish it was too. :( :(

Star Inkbright said...

*Kas

Gosh. Sorry. Autocorrect.

Star Inkbright said...

I may need to go to sleep soon. :P

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

We have true democacy. We left representatives who then go on to vote on and discus things on a day to day basis and vote on big important matters in referrendums. Anarchy is more "NO GOVERNMENT! EVERYONE CONTROLS THEMSELVES! THE EASON NO ONE WILL MURDER ME IS BECE I'LL MURDER THEM IF THEY TRY!"

Star Inkbright said...

XD Love that representation of anarchy, Trip.

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Trip - I believe in a system like that, you would get the best of both worlds. The voting of representatives and the power of a dictatorship.)

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: given they actually consider people's opinions. i don't agree with the concept of nations either.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

@Sophia So you're complaining that you weren't born in a time and place where we had marriage equality. Got it.

Now stop complaining. It got legalised. That means that someone changed it from what it was before. And what it was before made sense to be there right until it didn't, hence the reason for the vote.

Star Inkbright said...

*promotes Slipknot by mentioning its awesomeness in this comment*

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

(Yeah Kas. And if we're being honest Ireland is not a very tolerant place, on the whole. In fact, the only place in Great Britain now with still no gay marriage is Northern Ireland. So Franky, no, the country is not very equal and tolerant. It's something of a theocracy.)

Commander Sophia Keating (N7 Operative and Council Spectre) said...

(Actually, Tia, I am complaining that there had to be a vote on whether to support equality or not, rather than equality being the norm.)

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: Yeah. Our system isn't being as democratic as it could be.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

The power of a dictatorship means that things will get done, but without a guarantee that it's things that people want or need that are sone, with no oversight to stop it.

That's the point where you call your friendly neighbourhood terrorist and ask them to blow up the dictator.

Star Inkbright said...

@Sophia: I can support that complaint.

Omg i'n agreeing with almost everyone now.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

(A democractc dictatorship, you mean? I came up with something akin to that for a jok country.)

They do, fera, it's how they get reelected. And nations work well. They are an excellent way of representing what groups of people want.

Kai The Immortal said...

(because equality can't exist whilst there is still someone to argue the other end of it.)

Feraaaa32 said...

I think there should be just one country, names the united nations, and we stop being so horrible to each other, even countrywise. Maybe then i wouldn't think the world needs a dictator.

Feraaaa32 said...

trip: maybe, but if people would learn how to live with each other, there would be less conflicts.

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: "stop being so horrible to each other" Hmmm mm yeah not gonna happen. Nice idea though. :)

Kai The Immortal said...

(would like to take this time to point out only 25 more comments left)

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

(Sounds good to me. I'm up for equality being the norm. I'm also up for the way it was determined it was in fact the norm in stead of a co travertial piece of legislation being forced upon an unwilling people.)

Star Inkbright said...

Alright. I finished downloading music. I am agreeing with most people. It is ten to one. I will possibly go to sleep now.

Feraaaa32 said...

star: in that case, if that can't happen, then i don't see why a dictator would be a bad thing to have.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

@Sophia These are laws from a different time, which, again, had a reason to exist. Maybe changing them was overdue, but you can't just go and change a constitution.

It's not how things work. It's not how things should work.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

As I said at the beginning fera, I like you naïveté.

And also yes, if everyone got along there would be fewer wars, but it isn't really that simple, is it?

Feraaaa32 said...

:/ yeah...

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

*Ignore the last sentence.

Feraaaa32 said...

bye every1

Star Inkbright said...

@Fera: "if we can'r all be nice, let's let people live in slavery and oppression and get shot for looking the wrong way" . . . nah. I think people sometimes not being able to get jobs due to their gender is preferable to concentration camps. We will never be 100% nice, but we can be nicer than a lot of dictators.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

Next post:

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1104475307058729066&postID=1065222850356840384&isPopup=true

Star Inkbright said...

:) Thank you, Kas.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

Bye, Fera!

Kai The Immortal said...

I guess here next ?

Star Inkbright said...

:) And thank you, Conductor.

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

Oh. My link may be wrong.

Kai The Immortal said...

(I dunnno first one I saw without 5000 comments :/)

Feraaaa32 said...

yeah...probably...

Feraaaa32 said...

con: yeah....you're right...

Kai The Immortal said...

we can go to yours if you want kas ? kas's link :P

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

I'm going to summarize my argument against a dictator:

1. They rule through oppression and fear, so any gains are negated by the fact that you lose your ability for self determination.

2. Their ideas while seeming right and sensible to you could very well be anathema to someone else. Because of this, why is the dictator the one with correct ideas?

3. The dictator simply cannot please everyone, this is human nature.

4. Social change cannot be forced. When people ry this i t always ends up in failure, e.g Mao. It must be eased in.

5. No dictator, going back to the very root of the post in the Roman Republic has not done something drastic that ended in a lot of dead or impoverished people.

6. To find a dictatornall the peoples of the world could accept as the leader to begin with is fanciful and impossible.

7. You would have literally no say in government policy anymore. None. Only the dictator is right.

8. ALL OF 1984 AND THE 20TH CENTURY.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

And with that, my friends, good night.

Feraaaa32 said...

yeah, "good" night

Tanya Halcyon (Kas) said...

@Trip 9. From the beginning of a dictatorship, we know how it'll end.

Kai The Immortal said...

Goodnight little hobbit :P

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